Lay-out fouten

vrijdag 3 oktober 2003

Ondanks redelijk wat testen van de nieuwe lay-out komen nu fouten naar voren die ik niet voorzien had. Dit bericht zal voor u, als lezer, weinig waarde hebben maar voor mij een uitstekende geheugensteun zijn bij het oplossen van de onderstaande fouten. De onderstaande fouten hebben nu prioriteit 1, daarna zal ik me bezig houden om de pagina's te voorzien van de benodigde tips en tricks om ze te laten voldoen aan de accessibility eisen. Validatie van XHTML en CSS staan dan op de plannen en als laatste aanpassingen zodat de content (waar het uiteindelijk om draait, niet waar?) zich fatsoenlijk presenteert.

Ondanks dat dit bericht weinig waarde voor u zal bevatten vraag ik uw medewerking voor het volgende:

  1. Is de witte tekst (links, meta data bij berichten en titels in de rechterkolom) moeilijk te lezen op de grijze achtergrond?
  2. Leest de tekst (momenteel voorzien van een letter-spacing van 0.1em lekkerder dan, minder lekker dan of maakt geen verschil met een letter-spacing van 0em (normal), zoals gebruikt in deze lijst met vragen?
  3. Indien u deze site bekijkt in Safari, Camino of IE 5.x op een Apple, zou u zo vriendelijk willen zijn om screenshots te mailen naar: testing@pomtiedom.com.

Voor de techneuten onder ons, lees verder voor code samples en afbeeldingen van de fouten.

Internet Explorer 6.0
Figuur 1. Footer gaat verkeerd. Figuur 1. Footer gaat verkeerd.

Zoals R@lf gisteren reeds opmerkte en ikzelf ook al had gezien, gaat er iets verkeerd in Inernet Explorer 6.0 met de footer. Zie de bijbehorende code in XHTML en CSS:

XHTML

<div id=all">	
  <!-- more XHTML -->
  <!-- FOOTER -->
  <div id="copyright">
    <span>Copyright © 1997 - 2003, JW. All rights reserved.</span>
  </div>
  <div id="footer">
    <span>
      <a href="..." title="Validate as XHTML 1.1">XHTML 1.1</a> & 
      <a href="..." title="Validate as CSS 2.1">CSS 2.1</a> validated.
    </span>
  </div>
</div>

CSS

/* ALL COLUMNS CATCH_UP [ids and classes] */

#all {
  float: left;
  width: 80%;
  background: #CCC url(ccc666.gif) top right repeat-y;
}

html>body #all {
  background: #CCC url(ccc666_mozilla_opera.gif) top right repeat-y;
} 

/* FOOTER [ids and classes] */

#footer {
  float: left;
  width: 37.5%;
  height: 20px;
  border: 2px solid #FFF;
  background-color: #FFF;
  color: #333;
}

html>body #footer {
  width: 37%;
}

#copyright {
  float: left;
  width: 62.5%;
  height: 20px;
  border: 2px solid #FFF;
  background-color: #FFF;
  color: #333;
  margin-left: -2px;
}

html>body #copyright {
  width: 62%;
}

#footer span {
  font-family: Verdana;
  font-size: 0.7em;
  color: #333;
}

#copyright span {
  font-family: Verdana;
  font-size: 0.7em;
  color: #333;
}
Figuur 2. rechterkolom verkeerd geplaatst. Figuur 2. rechterkolom verkeerd geplaatst.

Op schermresoluties van 800 * 600 wordt in IE de rechterkolom reeds onder de linker gezet terwijl in andere browsers de kolom gewoon rechts te zien is. Waarschijnlijk te maken met de box model fouten in IE.

Opera 7.2
Figuur 3. Footer gaat verkeerd. Figuur 3. Footer gaat verkeerd.

Ondanks dat de footer, <div id="foot"> na de copyright div is geplaatst in de XHTML float deze niet naast de copyright div maar naast de linker div en recht onder de rechter div. Ik vraag me af of dit een correcte uitvoering is van het float-en door Opera.

Figuur 4. Rechterkolom verkeerde breedte. Figuur 4. Rechterkolom verkeerde breedte

De recher kolom krijgt een verspringing indien de tekst te breed is en/of de tekst eerder ophoud in verticale richting dan in de linker kolom. Waarschijnlijke oorzaak het gebruik van een dirty trick background image in de catch-all div.

Firebird 0.6.1
Figuur 5. Rechterkolom verkeerde breedte. Figuur 1. Rechterkolom verkeerde breedte.

Zie de tweede fout bij Opera 7.2. Zelfde probleem, andere browser.

Reacties

  1. In Opera 7.20 gaat het perfekt, op een dingetje na - een oud probleem trouwens: zodra ik op "Cookie" klik, worden de gegevens in het form gereset en kan ik gewoon weer opnieuw beginnen.

    De grotere letterspacing vinnik wel iets hebben. Als ik niet zo lang van stof zou zijn gebruikte ik het zelf ook ;-)

    Jij ook al ruzie met Safari? Wat is dat een flutbrowser, zeg!

    vrijdag 3 oktober 2003 om 11:59:45 door: Eric.

  2. Oeps, zie nu pas over wat er fout gaat in 7.20. Kijk, dát ligt nou typisch aan de site, hč....? ;-)

    vrijdag 3 oktober 2003 om 12:03:26 door: Eric.

  3. Nou pomtiedom - dat wit is onleesbaar op mijn laptop!!!
    Ach en die letterspatsiejering interesseert me hier niet zo - vind het beide wel wat hebben.

    vrijdag 3 oktober 2003 om 12:11:29 door: jules.

  4. Wit op lichtgrijs is wel mooi, maar niet superleesbaar natuurlijk. En extra spatiëring is altijd een tikje minder leesbaar, maar 0,1em is miniem natuurlijk. Zou de copyright notice wel een beetje marge geven. En de smileys transparant ook. Voor het overige vind ik 'm nog steeds piccobello.

    vrijdag 3 oktober 2003 om 12:28:44 door: frédéric.

  5. Ff met Lynx gechecked. Skip navigation doet het hier (nog) niet.
    En ik mis de plaatjes :-)
    Verder prima leesbaar

    vrijdag 3 oktober 2003 om 12:33:45 door: jules.

  6. Ook op mijn geliefde laptop is het wit op het grijs moeilijk te lezen. Moet onder andere hoek naar beeldscherm kijken :)

    Verder is spacing wel OK. Niks mis mee lijkt mij, toch?

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